1994 Firehawk #181 questions

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Dave Hamburger » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:52 pm

I'll lookup the VIN and history when I"m back in the office on Tuesday.

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Scott Chab » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:37 pm

Thanks Dave. Curiosity is getting the best of me.
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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Dave Hamburger » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:12 pm

It's #181. The gauge cluster is wrong and so is the plaque. The car was ordered with the Hurst and the Exhaust.

The original owner is from Janesville, WI and an ex-GM employee. The records show that a bunch of replacement parts were ordered back in early '96 indicating an front end accident. The gear ratio could be that a rear was swapped from an auto-tranny car into this car after an accident.



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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Phil » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:35 pm

Thanks Dave I'll let the dealership know that they have a fake Firehawk.

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by spoogen622 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:17 pm

its more incorrect then it is fake. still a Firehawk

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by PontiacFan » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:27 am

Phil wrote:Thanks Dave I'll let the dealership know that they have a fake Firehawk.
Not a 'fake'.
He just said it was #181.

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Phil » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:54 am

Sorry, Fake isn't the right word obviously.
He said it was ordered with a Hurst shifter. This car is an automatic with all the RPO codes saying it was a base Formula with an automatic from the factory without the Firehawk option. No one's information seems to match anything about this car, so maybe not "fake", but it sure has gone though some major transformations or paperwork changes at some point.

I'll crawl back into my hole now. Must be some weird history on this one regardless of what it is now.

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by BLACK-HAWK » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:05 am

The only information that matters is what Dave H has. Being the 1st owner was an employee my best guess is prior to production the RPO codes and build packages were already assigned to the vin number. while the car was going through the assembly line he had it changed to a manual. That's as far as my guessing goes, can't come up with any god stories to justify the parts swap after the wreck other then the auto shop ordered the replacement parts based off those RPO codes which wow have indicated it being an auto. All theory but plausible
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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Phil » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:25 am

Bryan,

I like the theory. Only thing is, the car is an automatic.

I think the safe thing to do, for me, is to steer clear of this one.

My personal theory, and it's a stretch...the original #181 was wrecked to the point of being a total loss and this car was turned into #181 when the parts were ordered.

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by spoogen622 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:52 am

I dont think I would buy a car with that kind of story behind it, unless the price was really right

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Scott Chab » Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:13 pm

Phil wrote:Bryan,

I like the theory. Only thing is, the car is an automatic.

I think the safe thing to do, for me, is to steer clear of this one.

My personal theory, and it's a stretch...the original #181 was wrecked to the point of being a total loss and this car was turned into #181 when the parts were ordered.
This car wasn't "turned into" #181, it is #181. That said, my personal opinion is that it was extensively damaged and I wouldn't touch the car unless the price was really, really low.
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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by BLACK-HAWK » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:12 pm

Dave Hamburger wrote:It's #181... The car was ordered with the Hurst and the Exhaust.
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I'll hold all sarcasm to myself. Good find now go fishing for another... Or try to get it for $4-5k for not being original with documentation you now have.
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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by Phil » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:42 am

Tuff crowd... :)
I believe Dave

But, for what its worth, when you look it up on the SLP vin check it says that it was ordered with an exhaust and suspension, no talk about hurst. See where things get muddy, we have Dave saying one thing, the SLP vin lookup saying another and the Firehawk registry saying a third thing, while the sticker on the glove compartment says something completely different.

Sorry to cause such a wave in everyone's week.

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by PontiacFan » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:02 pm

People modify, repair, replace items from damage, etc., etc., all the time.
I think that you should just give it up & walk away from it all together, ...
It's not that big of a deal that you seem to be making it.
It's been changed over the years. Move on to another if you are looking for an all-original, ...

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Re: 1994 Firehawk #181 questions

Post by spoogen622 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:12 pm

Phil wrote:Tuff crowd... :)
I believe Dave

But, for what its worth, when you look it up on the SLP vin check it says that it was ordered with an exhaust and suspension, no talk about hurst. See where things get muddy, we have Dave saying one thing, the SLP vin lookup saying another and the Firehawk registry saying a third thing, while the sticker on the glove compartment says something completely different.

Sorry to cause such a wave in everyone's week.
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